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Corey Richardson  
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 More options Jul 20, 8:15 pm
Newsgroups: alt.food.fast-food, rec.food.cooking, uk.food+drink.misc
From: Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:15:50 +0100
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 8:15 pm
Subject: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers
http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/minisites/gordonramsay/recipe...

Every chef in the country would be a hypocrite if they said they never
ate burger and chips. The Boxwood Cafe burger has been the most amazing
addition to the menu -we make it with veal and add some minced foie
gras. We give it real three-star treatment, with beautiful chopped
mushrooms on the bun and the most amazing onion relish. Here's a
slightly different version but made along similar lines. The thing to
remember is to treat your burger like a steak. Sear it beautifully on
both sides, then let it rest and it will continue to cook to medium. If
you cook it to medium and then let it rest, it will be very dry.

Serves 4

2 red onions, finely sliced / 50g butter /1 tablespoon demerara sugar /1
tablespoon balsamic vinegar

1 large red onion, peeled and finely chopped / 1kg minced lean beef/ sea
salt and freshly ground black pepper / vegetable oil / butter / 4 large
burger baps, toasted / 4 large pickled gherkins, sliced / 2 beef
tomatoes, sliced /1 baby gem lettuce, washed and divided / shavings of
Parmesan cheese / chips, for serving (see page 241)

To make the onion relish, fry the onions in the butter until soft. Add
the sugar to the pan and fry for a further 4-5 minutes until
caramelized. Drain the excess fat from the pan and add the balsamic
vinegar. Cook for 2-3 minutes more until it has the consistency of a
syrup. Put aside until ready to use.

Mix the chopped onion into the minced beef and season well. Mould the
mince into 4 large balls and press down lightly to shape them into
burgers, then leave them to set in the fridge for a couple of hours.

When you're ready to cook the burgers, get a large frying pan or griddle
pan hot, and cook them in a little vegetable oil for 10-15 minutes. This
will cook them medium, so adjust the timing depending on whether you
like your burger a bit rarer or slightly more well done. Add a little
butter to the pan towards the end of the cooking time.

Serve the burgers straight away on the toasted baps with the salad
garnishes and Parmesan on top and the chips on the side. Top with the
onion relish.

--- END QUOTE ---

Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?
Would you eat this if it was made from ASDA/Walmart cheap mince? I know
I wouldn't!


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Pennyaline  
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 More options Jul 20, 9:04 pm
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From: Pennyaline <norwegianb...@deadparrot.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:04:54 -0600
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

Corey Richardson wrote:
> http://www.penguin.co.uk/static/cs/uk/0/minisites/gordonramsay/recipe...

> Every chef in the country would be a hypocrite if they said they never
> ate burger and chips. The Boxwood Cafe burger has been the most amazing
> addition to the menu...

<snip>

> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?
> Would you eat this if it was made from ASDA/Walmart cheap mince? I know
> I wouldn't!

I don't buy meats at Walmart. Nothing in their meat cases is edible.

But I would expect that the writer thinks using the finest grade of beef
would be self-explanatory, given the list of other fine ingredients
which, when it's all said and done, doesn't really add up to a hamburger
at all. This "amazing addition to the menu" looks more like a recipe for
some atrocious pretensionburger designed to appeal to young green bank
account holders without the brains to walk away.


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Corey Richardson  
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 More options Jul 20, 9:54 pm
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From: Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:54:42 +0100
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:04:54 -0600, Pennyaline

<norwegianb...@deadparrot.com> wrote:
>This "amazing addition to the menu" looks more like a recipe for
>some atrocious pretensionburger designed to appeal to young green bank
>account holders without the brains to walk away.

This is *really* pretentious food.

At the very least, $250+ per person too:-

http://www.fatduck.co.uk/menu_degustation.htm

It's true rubbish served with a 'pretentious name' to gullible idiots.


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Corey Richardson  
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 More options Jul 20, 9:57 pm
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From: Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:57:42 +0100
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:

>> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?

>The fact that this question even came into your mind shows that you
>don't have a clue how to cook or eat.  Stick to fast food.

>-sw

So, what make you think that some people won't try to recreate this crap
using cheap ASDA/Walmart mince?

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dejablues  
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 More options Jul 20, 10:42 pm
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From: "dejablues" <dejabl...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:42:44 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

"Corey Richardson" <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote in message

news:atk7841upja6n38sladr110qlmpebp7gfb@4ax.com...
/ 1kg minced lean beef

> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?
> Would you eat this if it was made from ASDA/Walmart cheap mince? I know
> I wouldn't!

An your point is?
The recipe says "minced lean beef". "Minced beef" means ground beef and you
can find that in any grocery store, in varying fat/lean ratios. The best
burgers, I find, are made with no greater than an 80/20 ratio of fat to
lean. Otherwise they're too dry.
A burger is sometimes just a burger. No need to overthink it.
Walmart doesn't sell ground beef here, anyway.

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 More options Jul 20, 10:44 pm
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From: "dejablues" <dejabl...@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:44:34 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

"Corey Richardson" <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote in message

news:d5r7845uno3mgrd6upo4po4m5sk375a00e@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
> wrote:

>>Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:

>>> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?

>>The fact that this question even came into your mind shows that you
>>don't have a clue how to cook or eat.  Stick to fast food.

>>-sw

> So, what make you think that some people won't try to recreate this crap
> using cheap ASDA/Walmart mince?

How would that be harmful to you, if they did? Would it offend your delicate
sensibilities?

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Edwin Pawlowski  
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 More options Jul 20, 10:48 pm
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From: "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:48:39 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:48 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

"Corey Richardson" <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote in message
> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?
> Would you eat this if it was made from ASDA/Walmart cheap mince? I know
> I wouldn't!

No mention because Ramsay is using the best he can get, such as sirloin.  So
would I.  Wal Mart sells nothing edible in the meat department.

I make onions like that all the time.  I like them as a side with anything
beef.


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Edwin Pawlowski  
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 More options Jul 20, 10:56 pm
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From: "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:56:16 -0400
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

"Corey Richardson" <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote in message

> This is *really* pretentious food.

> At the very least, $250+ per person too:-

> http://www.fatduck.co.uk/menu_degustation.htm

> It's true rubbish served with a 'pretentious name' to gullible idiots.

Since you've made such a strong pronouncement, I have to assume you've tried
it and did not like it.

If you can afford it, why not?


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 More options Jul 20, 10:59 pm
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From: "Hugh" <lgb...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:59:17 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 20 2008 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers

"Corey Richardson" <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote in message

news:d5r7845uno3mgrd6upo4po4m5sk375a00e@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
> wrote:

>>Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:

>>> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?

>>The fact that this question even came into your mind shows that you
>>don't have a clue how to cook or eat.  Stick to fast food.

>>-sw

> So, what make you think that some people won't try to recreate this crap
> using cheap ASDA/Walmart mince?

No one is going to mix ground veal and liver and ground beef ,[even though
the recipe doesn't include ground beef and should] and buy it from Walmart.
I think it's a great idea.

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Mike.....  
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 More options Jul 21, 2:23 am
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From: "Mike....." <mikexcloth...@freedomnames.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:23:12 +0100
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 2:23 am
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers
Following up to Corey Richardson

> Notice there's no mention at all of what kind of minced beef to use?

if you cook a burger rare, mince the meat just before cooking, presymably
after doing something to "clean" the outside?
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Billy  
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 More options Jul 21, 6:33 am
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From: Billy <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:33:30 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 21 2008 6:33 am
Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:04:54 -0600, Pennyaline

<norwegianb...@deadparrot.com> wrote:
>I don't buy meats at Walmart. Nothing in their meat cases is edible

That is not a true statement.   Nothing in their meat case is anything
YOU would buy.  

I don't care for their meats being "flavor injected", i.e., water
added.  


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 More options Jul 21, 1:28 pm
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From: Pennyaline <norwegianb...@deadparrot.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:28:57 -0600
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Subject: Re: Gordon Ramsay's medium/rare burgers